@JohnRennpferd and in Google’s own words: Google engineer calls out Apple for holding back the web w/ 'uniquely underpowered' iOS browsers
It’s pretty simple here, looks like the past 2 posts agree that you can use Chrome, which is compatible with the BSA website. Even sounds like we’re now hearing directly from Google how Safari is substandard.
What is stopping anyone from using the FREE chromium based browsers that can be instantly installed instead of expecting BSA to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional development money?
A bit of a sidebar here, for YPT I can only get it to work using Firefox. That doesn’t seem to align at all with the discussion.
But all that said, if we make things difficult for people (not the program itself, but the associated bureaucracy) it is just one more reason for people to not be as involved as they might otherwise have been.
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@JohnRennpferd I guess you failed to read beyond the headline. Chrome uses WebKit on iOS. Despite the name chrome, you are essentially using Safari and the Safari underpinnings for iOS. No true chromium. Therefore chrome on iOS equals safari
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You’re assuming that the Google development team has not corrected the issues. I am assuming that since people who use Chrome on IOS do not have the same problems as Safari that Google HAS corrected the issues that the developers at Apple fail to correct with their browser.
So, again, why should BSA spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to fix a problem that everyone can fix instantly by using free software provided openly to the public that fixes the problem?
Macs make up about 30% of general users; only about 50% of Mac users use Safari. Chrome has about 2/3 of the entire browser market.
Many browsers are based on Chromium, including Chrome (duh…), MS Edge, and Opera. Programming dollars generally go for the biggest bang for the buck.
No one is disputing this data. The issue is all browsers running on iPhone and iPad (iOS) use WebKit, not Chromium, this includes Chrome.
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I teach the software that creates these types of presentations. This is not a “trick” question in that it is not trying to fool the viewer. It is simply a question that requires the viewer to pay attention and is a better test of their knowledge that a question that states “check three”.
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I was replying to the OP’s question/comment about not supporting Safari, not to anyone else’s post. Also, I was referring to the Mac OS, not iOS.
For the family that only has an iPad, the only option is to use Safari (WebKit) or Safari (WebKit) in Chome window dressing.
There have been plenty of other issues, though, with Windows scaling.
The system is out of date and can’t keep up. I assume the vendor has a way to migrate the content to a new system. It may cost a lot, but needs to be done.
@DavidCreamer - yes correct. It requires the person to carefully read the question
Googles development using Webkit is not just a “skin” over a different browser, it is Chromium based but ported into Webkit.
There are issues, there are other issues, but the answer to the Apple product user(s) who struggle, is to simply install chrome as it works, It’s free, it installs quick, and it’s simple to use. There is no need for BSA to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars redeveloping websites for an industry non-compliant browser (Safari).
Has the training gone through testing to prove it works on iOS with Chrome or is this just anecdotal?
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BSA national tells us to use Chrome, so yes?
If you think that the MB training is bad take the STEM training.
As the training chair for my district I get comments from just about every leader that this training website is the worst they have ever dealt with. That comes from teachers and IT professionals as well as stay at home parents. BSA is just burying their heads in the sand on something they know is an issue.
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If you haven’t please give the feedback to your NST lead and others listed in the training times newsletter.
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I don’t think it is “bury the head”, I think it is that there is a finite amount of resources due to the bankruptcy. For example, the old Scouting U building was sold and the proceeds, which were supposed to go to the victim’s fund, had to be used to keep the lights on/continuing operations.
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Alrighty sports fans… my wife completed TPzt on an iPhone… how flipping crazy is that
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