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An Adult Scouter got their Wood Badge in 2012. They are active in our Boys and Girls troops, as well as in our Venturing crew. They suddenly started to show up on our Units’ Youth Recognition Report interfiled with all the Scouts, for our Boys and Girls troops, as well as our Venturing crew. ref: PD-20240926114850-584619-174917. This is confusing our Advancement Coordinators as they prepare for their Courts of Honor.
Please fix this bug that is leaking Adult awards onto the Youth Recognition Report?
As we have said, this is not a bug. The report is working as designed. Opening new threads on the same topic will not get us to change our minds. Future threads on this topic will be deleted.
For context, this bug is an extension of a question I had about adult training awards being permanently interfiled in the youth Recognition Report.
This is not documented functionality, it is infuriating for our Advancement Coordinators, and the workarounds are cumbersome and error-prone. Therefore it is appropriately filed as a bug.
This thread is going no where. The behavior you describe is not a bug. If you do not want A90 or any other training from years ago to be on the recognition report to display, enter a start date at the top of the report. I have verified entering a date after the training does indeed filter it from the report.
Since you are not entering a start date, the report is returning all the data you asked it to.
Let’s remember that we’re all volunteers, at least on this end, trying to help youth - this is a pet issue of mine because our advancement coordinators expect to see the Unit’s Youth Recognition on the report, and they are observing something else. I’m tired of having them sigh and say “I hate it when Scoutbook changes things like this.” Scoutbook is a great help in our program, and I’ve been using it so long that I feel like I have some ownership in the product.
It makes me feel sad when we get told that we are lazy or irrational for asking for functionality that we expect. I’m sure “many” units want to have a Wood Badge Training on their Needs Recognition reports forever … but not this one.
I wish you would put me in touch with somebody “at National” who can unblock this apparent stalemate.
Unfortunately When you use the “Include Non-awarded” flag (which is what I was told to do in these forums since I cannot print the “Needs Awarding” report from legacy Scoutbook), this behaviour is always shown.
It is very important to have a list of what needs to be awarded, and this is the report we are given. Having my Woodbadge show up is an anoyance when I am doing it. When we get more people to help with our awards, it will be very confusing & frustrating.
If you use the report as designed, which is to enter the last Court of Honor date as the start date, Wood Badge that was completed prior to that date will not appear, even if you check Include Not Awarded. I tested this with my unit to demonstrate this behaves as expected.
I use the “Not Awarded regardless of date” option. I don’t enter a start date. This is for a Pack, not for a Troop CoH. I specifically care about a printout of what has NOT been awarded so that I can make sure that these get awarded during our meeting. This report gets me the awards that need to be awarded for Scouts that have not been at a meeting recently, but need to get them awarded.
@JasonKracht - well when I use it for my pack i use the date of the last pack meeting as the start as I mark everything awarded from pack meeting to pack meeting. I have no hold overs as I present everything to the den leaders.
The report is designed to always start with the last time awards were give, be it Pack Meeting, Court of Honor or other time. It was developed to be an aid in putting together a recognition program, not to figure out what awards need to be given out. There was a request to be able to recognize not only those that earned new awards but those that may have missed the last recognition event, the “regardless of date” option was added.
I don’t know if this was ever addressed, but there is no direct-to-user support from national anymore. They discontinued it years ago and only have volunteers here (whose abilities to provide support are limited to varying degrees and whose authority to execute changes to the code base is nonexistent) and support via individual councils, whose professional scouters can raise issues to national via their internal communications channels. You might suggest via your council professionals that a flag be added to exclude adults from the report. That might be something that is comparatively easy to implement since scouters are already distinguishable from youth/participants. That has the side-effect that it may exclude adults who have not yet received some sort of award (e.g. Mile Swim or other awards scouters can earn), but it might be a way to exclude items like from the list if you only want to see youth awards/advancement.
However, regardless of the ease (or not) of implementation, ultimately the folks at national are making the decisions about selection and prioritization of any fixes/changes/features.
