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Camping Manager tool user guide, version 1, slide 10
Cub Scout packs are counted if they have one or more participants at any day camp, resident camp, or family camp. Troops, crews, and ships are counted only if they are camping under their own leadership at a resident or high adventure camp. Do not count a unit more than onceCub Scout packs are counted if they have one or more participants at any day camp, resident camp, or family camp. Troops, crews, and ships are counted only if they are camping under their own leadership at a resident or high adventure camp. Do not count a unit more than once
What is entered and what counts for JTE?
Not all data collected counts towards the JTE awards.
Cub Scouting
Cub Scouting Data Entry
Cub Scout Day Camp Information
Cub/Webelos Resident Camp Information
Cub Family Camp
Packs - Council JTE Measurement
10 - Cub Scout Camping: “Council Cub Scouts attending any in-council/out-of-council day camp (including STEM), twilight camp, resident camp, or family camp during the period of 9/1/18 through 8/31/19, divided by Cub Scout membership on 6/30/19.”
Packs District JTE Measurement
9 - Cub Scout Camping: “Council Cub Scouts attending any in-council/out-of-council day camp (including STEM), twilight camp, resident camp, or family camp during the period of 9/1/18 through 8/31/19, divided by Cub Scout membership on 6/30/19."
Pack JTE Unit Measurement
7 - Day/resident/family camp: “Cub Scouts attend an in-council or out-of-council Cub Scout day camp, family camp, and/or Cub Scout resident camp in 2019. STEM programs either as a day camp or resident camp are also included. All levels are total number of different Cub Scouts attending (A) divided by total number of Cub Scouts registered in the pack as of June 30, 2019 (B). Total = (A) / (B).”
Scouts BSA
Scouts BSA Data Entry
Scouts BSA Resident Camp
Scouts BSA High Adventure Camp
Troops - Council JTE Measurement
11 - Scouts BSA Camping: “Council Scouts BSA attending any in-council/out-of-council long-term summer camp, high-adventure experience, jamboree, specialty camp (such as STEM), or serving on camp staff during the period of 9/1/18 through 8/31/19, divided by Scouts BSA membership on 6/30/19”
Troops District JTE Measurement
10 - Scouts BSA Camping: “Council Scouts BSA attending any in-council/out-of-council long-term summer camp, high-adventure experience, jamboree, specialty camp (such as STEM), or serving on camp staff during the period of 9/1/18 through 8/31/19, divided by Scouts BSA membership on 6/30/19."
Troop Unit JTE Measurement
6 - Short-term camping: :“Conduct short-term (at least one overnight) campouts throughout the year.”
7 - Long-term camping: "Number of Scouts who attend any in-council or out-of-council long-term summer camp (of at least five nights), high-adventure experience, or jamboree, or serve on camp staff within the past year, divided by the Scout membership on June 30, 2019. Youth attending long-term specialty camps such as NYLT or STEM are also counted.
Venturing
Venturing Data Entry
Venturing Resident Camp
Crew JTE Unit Measurement
4 - Adventure: “The crew conducts regular activities outside of meetings. At least one is a Tier II activity (may be less than four days, but requires planning and skill development) or a Tier III activity (at least 4 days and is mentally and physically challenging.)”
Sea Scouts BSA
Ships are mentioned in the Camping Manager tool user guide version 1, “Unit Camping” block, slide 19.
Ship JTE Unit Measurement
4 - Activities: “The ship has regular activities (not including normal ship meetings). Number of youth participating in at least one super activity/long cruise, divided by the number of Sea Scouts registered in the ship on June 30, 2019.”
If your Scouts BSA troop camped at an out-of-council camp, that council should have reported the following to your council no later than August 31st. However that may not always happen.
Council and name of council camp where troop camped
Where is the “super activity/long cruise” defined. I suspect the long cruise is reported if it has enough days and night. There may have been some earlier discussion about sleeping onboard and sleeping ashore (camping)
Bill - what is the point of this data being shared? That is, why would the out of council spend the effort to communicate this? How is it used? Where? By whom?
We camped a weekend at an out of council camp and I would bet dollars to donuts no communication happened.
District and Council JTE track some camping, but not all camping.
Cub Scouts attending any council/district day camp, resident camp and family camp. Pack camping is not tracked. (Minor note - pack camping is not the same as a family camp put on by the district or council.)
Scouts BSA attending any council long term (5+ nights) camping and high adventure camping. Unit weekend outings are not tracked.
I was on my phone and didn’t quote the part I was really questioning. We track our camping as a unit and what not. But this out of council camp form / procedure was odd / weird to me.
As @DougWright noted, this information helps the councils and districts with their JTE data collection. If every camp reports out-of-town unit camping to the units’ home councils, that acts as a cooperative to accumulate data that might otherwise go unreported to council.
Effective August 24, 2020, the national camping data collection process will be discontinued. Known as the “camping report”, this data collection will no longer take place at the national level. The data that is now collected via the NCAP Intent to Operate submission process will be sufficient for national level reporting needs. Councils should continue to track the camping data and statistics that is relevant for their council operations and to support their units.
2020 JTE District Camping Objectives
2020 district score card, 513-108, Revised 2/24/20
#9 - Cub Scout camping: Increase the percentage of Cub Scouts attending day camp, family camp, and/or resident camp.
Bronze: 40% or 2 percentage points increase (i.e. 28%-30%)
Silver: 60%, or 40% and 2 percentage points increase
Gold: 90%, or 60% and 2 percentage points increase
Measures: Council Cub Scouts attending any in-council/out-of-council day camp (including STEM), twilight camp, resident camp, or family camp during the period of 9/1/19 through 8/31/20, divided by Cub Scout membership on 6/30/20.
#10 - Scouts BSA camping: Increase the percentage of Scouts BSA attending long-term camp and high-adventure program
Bronze: 57% or 2 percentage points increase (i.e. 38%-40%)
Silver: 67%, or 57% and 2 percentage points increase
Gold: 80%, or 67% and 2 percentage points increase
Measures: Council Scouts BSA attending any in-council/out-of-council long-term summer camp, high-adventure experience, jamboree, specialty camp (such as STEM), or serving on camp staff during the period of 9/1/19 through 8/31/20, divided by Scouts BSA membership on 6/30/20
You could contact the JTE group off the JTE website for clarity. They have responded to a question I had in the past.
Too bad National doesn’t “save up” these changes and just roll out updated JTE in the fall for the new year. Mid year changes don’t help with clarity.
The BSA world has changed. BSA does not control the when the the affects of COVID-19 and lawsuits occur. They now need to react faster instead of using the traditional annual review method. (Which they are trying to do.)
I doubt if BSA national knows yet if current BSA national tools will continue to be supported.
Bill_W,
Past volunteer member of a national JTE requirements review task group.
