Removing Adults from Scoutbook on April 12th

They do not have access to youth personal info. Assuming the permissions scoutbook allows you to set are enforced.

Still no excuse for avoiding YPT and background checks.

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Looking for some help merging duplicate accounts on some adult leaders. In a nut shell, the leaders had a SB account as a parent and when their ap was submitted for a leadership position it created 2 accounts.

You can just put BSA numbers (no names) in this post and we can deal with it - also under edit profile - User ID is a good thing @JoshuaMann

These are the leaders with dups:

Leader 1: BSA 13741127 and 133972331; User 1506172 and 9884467
Leader 2: BSA 13072362 and 136536833; User 358848 and 9871229
Leader 3: BSA 13261488; User 9937628 and 358811
Leader 4: BSA 125592890; User 414815 and 9750948
Leader 5: BSA 12171071 and 128346892; User 2619582 and 7457562

#1 - merged in SB - BUT Council needs to add middle name to ScoutNET for first BSA # so they can be merged - 2nd one Primary

#2 - merged in SB - have Council merge the 2 MIDS

#3 - Fixed

#4 - Fixed - she needs to use btumid user name and my.scouting password to sign in

#5 - fixed - he can use rpratali user name and my.scouting password to sign in - and council can merge the 2 MIDS with 6892 Primary

So, does this mean we have to PAY for every leader, assistant leader, committee member, etc. that’s noted as a ā€œleaderā€ in SB? That can get pricey! I get the YPT and background checks, but the cost can get out of control if we have to pay for every single leader!

Yes, the BSA requires all leaders to register and there is a fee for most positions. Background checks and staff time to process registrations is not free. Some units pay the registration fees for their leaders, others have the leaders pay the fee themselves. An adult only needs to pay one annual registration fee no matter how many positions they hold, even across councils.

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Thanks, Ed. I volunteer for my church, and they don’t charge me to do a background check, because, you know, I’m a volunteer. Sounds like a cash grab to me. I’d fully expect the amount of ā€œleadersā€ is going to reduce in units because of this.

@JosephTurner1 - registered adult leaders have been paying a registration and the recharter fee annually for some time now. Every adult on my rosters is a volunteer and all applied and all pay at least a portion of the recharter fee. Those in multiple units one pay the fee for one unit. I honestly could care less what your church does. I also suspect that you are not even a registered leader nor has ever dealt with recharter.

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I search this thread and did not see this question, what happens to leaders with multiple positions in the same unit? Committee Member/Asst Den Leader?? Will any positions be removed?

@ArthurDonchey - as long as the MID (BSA#) in the SB Account has an active Unit registration - all positions will remain - the SB position does not have to match the actual registered position

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Background checks get costly. All volunteers need to be registered. I don’t understand why you would want to have a ASM or ADL or ACM or committee member that flys under the radar in secret. All leaders need to be on the record and not on the side. There have been dues / fees for registered leaders for many years, this is nothing new. I don’t see why any unit would want to have ā€œfreeā€ leaders when all other leaders are being paid for.

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Couldn’t be any more wrong, Stephen. Den Leader for almost 9 years, past Cubmaster, and Committee Member of my older son’s Troop. I am fully registered with the BSA as well, and I’m intimate with the recharter process. If the BSA truly cared about ā€œkeeping our kids safe,ā€ they would require EVERY parent registered in Scoutbook to have YPT and do a background check. But no, they want units to fork out hundreds of dollars for ā€œleadersā€ to go through this, because, you know, no ā€œnon-leaderā€ ever has contact with my kids. BSA is the only major organization I’ve ever heard of that actually CHARGES people to be volunteers! Our Pack pays the leader’s ā€œfees,ā€ because we want people to actually volunteer, and I’m sure we’re not alone is this scenario. Dues are better spent going to the kids and not the inflated salaries of BSA executives. This is going to backfire and produce less trained leaders. Just another bonehead, money-grabbing move by the BSA with no forethought on the ramifications of their actions. Just ask any LDS member. Oh, we can’t. They all quit. And I’m probably going to get ā€œZuckerberged,ā€ now, but oh well.

If the BSA truly cared about ā€œkeeping our kids safe,ā€ they would require EVERY parent registered in Scoutbook to have YPT and do a background check. But no, they want units to fork out hundreds of dollars for ā€œleadersā€ to go through this, because, you know, no ā€œnon-leaderā€ ever has contact with my kids. BSA is the only major organization I’ve ever heard of that actually CHARGES people to be volunteers! Our Pack pays the leader’s ā€œfees,ā€ because we want people to actually volunteer, and I’m sure we’re not alone is this scenario. This is going to backfire and produce less trained leaders.

Steven’s correct. This is about money. If the BSA truly cared about ā€œkeeping our kids safe,ā€ they would require EVERY parent registered in Scoutbook to have YPT and do a background check. But no, they want units to fork out hundreds of dollars for ā€œleadersā€ to go through this, because, you know, no ā€œnon-leaderā€ ever has contact with my kids. BSA is the only major organization I’ve ever heard of that actually CHARGES people to be volunteers! This is going to backfire and produce less trained leaders.

Bring this thread back on track or it will be closed. This is to discuss the removal of adults on April 12, not BSA policy.

Please close it. I can only listen to ā€œIt’s another cash grabā€ complaint so many times.

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I’m the OP. I’m good with closing it if it’s gone off the rails.

I haven’t gotten my situation straightened out but I’m working on it…

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