Weird Eagle Palm calculation quirk

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Maybe it’s just me but I wanted to confirm.

Scout recently completed EBOR and is now in the system as an Eagle. Yay!

Scout has 43 completed badges which means 22 count towards palms

5 - Bronze, no problem
10 - Gold, no problem
15 - Silver, no problem
20 - Another Bronze automatically started, again no problem.

The issue is that the system auto starts a gold and a silver for the remaining 2.

This isn’t exactly a bug, but more of a confusing UX experience. I understand why it started the second gold, but shouldn’t it wait on the silver until the second gold is completed?

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If you provide the Scouting America Member ID (no names, please!) for the scout, the SUAC volunteers may be able to identify if this is a bug, or if it’s the intended behavior. I agree that it seems odd.

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Member ID: 133474874

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@JDecker- and there are no merit badge partials

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Not sure I follow you.

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@JDecker - no merit badges started but not worked on and/or started but partially completed ?

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@Stephen_Hornak there’s 2 completed MB that are triggering the start of the second gold palm, but also the second silver, which can’t be earned without the gold. Just a weird quirk.

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That is the way Legacy Scoutbook also worked - it is by design

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@DonovanMcNeil out of curiosity why? Just a little confusing from a user experience perspective.

Or does this fall under the tried and true “eh, just go with it”?

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Weird in your eyes, not in most I have talked to - Scouts like it as they see how many they can get at Eagle, or how they can finish one at 18.

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It makes sense if you have a scout with 5n+m, m < 5 “extra” merit badges and are pending Eagle (or the time for the next palm) to show all of the palms on the table plus one more for the “m” leftover merit badges. It’s not as clear why it would show two more palms started when you have 22 (i.e. 5n+2) extra badges.

It seems like it should be assigning the 2 badges to the 5th (i.e. gold) palm, not one to the 5th (gold) and one to the 6th (silver). I don’t recall it doing that before. It would surely have driven me nuts (or maybe it’s only a short putt in my case).

It almost seems like the check is determining the number of extra palms started based on computing mod(5n+m,5) then using the remainder “m” directly to determine how many more palms to start instead of just crediting them all to the “n+1” palm.

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@CharleyHamilton that makes sense. Thank you.

I think what was really bugging me is how the progress bar makes it look like the scout has almost completed it when in actuality it’s not. I’m looking at it and thinking “how in the world is a silver almost completed?”

Thanks everyone for the explanations.

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