Have multiple adults in our unit whose ASM training has not trasferred across from another Troop. Have another ASM who lost his ASM training when he applied to be a MBC. Who can help? Have a final adult who is showing up as a scout? Thanks
Justin
@JustinArgentieri Please provide the member ID numbers, and we can take a look.
(No names, please.)
12482157 and 129427942 training did not transfer with transfer between troops. 12446352 training disappeared when MBC application was approved. Thank you for the assist with this.
@JustinArgentieri When you say that their training did not transfer, can you elaborate? Which specific training did not transfer?
ASM training sorry.
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Justin
@JustinArgentieri - here are the current training requirements.
Out of that what is missing?
@JustinArgentieri those 3 numbers do not lead to the same person - all very different names - please check them again - are they BSA #s?
Three asms transferred from the same troop 888 to ours 654 two lost their training immediately and one did later after he was accepted as a MBC. They were fully trained at the time of transfer.
MID 12482157 has 156 trainings completed with YPT expiring 7/25/25.
MID 129427942 has 62 trainings completed with YPT expiring 9/26/26
MID 12446352 has 50 trainings completed with YPT expiring 6/22/25
Where are you looking that you do not see training for these individuals?
Are you just saying that the “Trained” tag disappeared? That’s tied to a lot of different moving parts.
Is their Hazardous Weather training current? Was their registration as an ASM continuous or was there a gap? If there was a gap, they may not be grandfathered through on the old training sequence, and would need to take the new training to recover their registration…
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If an adult leader volunteer changes positions or transfers to a different unit, then that person will no longer be grandfathered for purposes of being “trained”.
They might need to re-do some of the individual modules or be current on Hazardous Weather Training (SCO_800), which expires after 2 years.
https://www.scouting.org/program-updates/hazardous-weather-training-updates-faq/
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Every time someone changes positions or units they lose and have to redo all of the training including the training that does not expire? No issue with redoing periodic training when the period is over, but why would the additional training be required?
I didn’t realize that there are two sets of standards for adult leaders currently. I show having to redo my haz weather when two years are up like everyone else. My understanding of being grandfathered in, is a provision in which an old rule continues to apply to some existing situations while a new rule will apply to all future cases.
If this is Scouting America’s policy it needs to be communicated loudly and often.
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Justin
@JustinArgentieri - one issue is that you have not been specific in what is missing from their record and neither have you stated where you are looking at training records. I would think an adult leader should be the responsible party to check on their training.
@JustinArgentieri Please contact your local council for policy questions.
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