Failed member ID merge

Hi,
I had 3 member IDs, one from the council I grew up in due to my renewed NESA membership, one from the state my family just moved from, and one from my current council. I did the member ID merge on My.Scouting.Org when they announced it and something screwed up because it shows my council that I grew up in as my primary council and no active registration.

The site doesn’t give any options for support and tells you to contact your local council. My council registrar is non-responsive to e-mails. I went into the office last week to talk about this issue. While she took my info I have heard nothing since. I’ve been unable to access anything for about a month now. I can’t see my son’s information as a parent, I can’t get reports for my troop as an ASM, or do anything with merit badges on Scoutbook Plus. This is really becoming a problem as we have gotten further into the new year for our troop and I’m worried that this will become an issue as we get closer to recharter time.

Does anyone have any information on anyone else that I can reach out to for help with this? Am I solely dependent on my council registrar to resolve this, and there’s no one at the national office that can help?

@JeremyDennis I think this is a known issue where one MID for you was Suspended so it effected them all. As far as the MID it should not matter what council it is in. I will pass this along, but I would advise your council do to the same - they need to say your MID was merged and registrations are now suspended.

But what options do I have when my council registrar is non-responsive? I’ve only managed to get her to listen when I go into the office, and that’s a 45 minute drive without the guarantee that she’ll be in. Is there nothing that people from the national office can do to help?

as stated this is a known issue from what we understand. Your council is how to directly report issues.

As Donovan said, all support is via local council staff. If the registrar won’t respond, go up the chain to the Scout Exec if necessary. The Scout Exec reports to the council’s board of directors so they would be your recourse if the SE doesn’t respond either.

@JeremyDennis what it looks like happened - your SYT (YPT) Training expired for 2 days and you were suspended. In that time you merged MIDs so all MIDs are now suspended. Council needs to unsuspend it now that your SYT is good now. WHAT Council can do that we are not sure of and trying to find out.

Thanks, that does make sense. My training expired in early August, and ironically I was notified by the registrar of our old council, not my current one. Do you think they would be able to help? I did take care of the training within the same day, as soon as I realized I missed the expiration. I was never notified about my account being un-suspended, but I also was only notified of the suspension by the old council. I also was able to use Scoutbook and other features for a day or two after I initiated the merge.

As someone that has worked in IT for years I would suggest that this whole system needs more communication with the end users and maybe provide more visibility into what’s going on. There are so many moving parts that being in a communication black hole, like I seem to be in, is really frustrating.

I think were you sit today - www.chickasaw.org can clear it up by unsuspending the MID

thanks! I’ll reach out to them. That’s the council I was a youth in back in the 90s, but it’s worth a shot.

They have the MID now - I think what happened you renewed NESA right before you merged, so that was the newest registration?

Fear not SUAC is loudly pointing out issues with all of this.

yeah, I did renew NESA shortly before the merge. That is why the Chickasaw Council was listed first. The registrar in Chickasaw was awesome and un-suspended my account before I finished explaining what my problem was. We’ll see if that resolves things as the various systems sync the changes.

Yeah probably needs a 24 hour sync. once it runs then your other registrered councils should have access (I think).

This is almost exactly the post I was going to make.

Three MIDs: one from the council where I grew up, from when I was considering becoming a Merit Badge counselor before I moved; one I use every day; and one I have no idea why it even exists.

A popup on my.scouting.org asks me to merge them? Sure, why not.

My Manage MID screen only shows two of the three MIDs—not the one from my old council—so I pick the one I use for everything.

It merges everything to my old council ID, an ID I’ve never used and didn’t even know existed until the merge popup.

Now, about half of what I had in my.scouting.org and Scoutbook is available.

I don’t have access to my son’s information, for whom I am the primary parent, or my daughter’s information, where my wife is the primary parent but I was also linked to her account.

In Scoutbook, I’m listed as “Needs to Register” on the roster for both my pack and the troop we’re currently with. The roster shows my main MID, while my.scouting.org shows the old one. My registration with that MID was current before the merge.

My camping and activity logs are gone. I get errors when I try to pull them up. At least my training seems to have survived.

To make things even better, I had initiated a multi-unit registration for me and my son. His appears to have gone through. Mine? No idea whether it’s awaiting Charter Organization Representative approval or has simply disappeared into the MID mess.

We also use Troop Campfire, and I can no longer sync the pack to Scoutbook.

Not exactly ideal during recruiting season.

As for council help, we must be in the same council because I’ve gotten exactly the same level of response: zero response to email.

At this point, I’m tempted to email the Council Executive and suggest that making it a point of emphasis for staff to at least acknowledge emails and let people know their issue is being looked into might be worthwhile.

If you’re going to publish email addresses on the council website, there should at least be some expectation that those emails will be monitored and acknowledged.

I was eventually able to make contact by phone and was told to wait 24 hours.

That was more than a week ago.

I realize MID consolidation is complicated, and I don’t expect an instant fix. But when the system itself creates the problem, losing access to registrations, Scoutbook connections, family relationships, activity history, and unit synchronization—and then getting no response from the people you’re directed to contact—is pretty frustrating.

@CraigStranathan - the charter Org Rep has to approve ALL adult applications.

@CraigStranathan if you just merged give it 24 full hours to sync.

@CraigStranathan

When you merged your Member IDs, your Scoutbook account was not updated with the surviving Member ID. I have fixed this. You should be able to log in again.

Thank you! That does align the MID I’m seeing in the roster for the Pack where I’m Cubmaster with the MID I see in my.scouting .org. The troop still shows the old MID and “needs to register” in the roster. Will the other issues fix themselves? (parent view in unit selection drop down not appearing, activity logs and ability to edit them, etc)

Thanks again

There are overnight processes that must run to complete the merge. If you merged today, check again tomorrow.

Merged over a week ago.

OK, thanks. I’ll look into your issues further tonight.