The Training Validation tool is currently working for me. Sometimes it won’t show if the person has a duplicate account.
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Peter, try logging out of My.Scouting, then log in again.
If you use SSO to get into My.Scouting, then the Legacy Tool Training Validation does not work.
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Jennifer,
I just logged in to the Training Validation tool, and it worked fine.
I’m not sure what you mean by a duplicate account. I have at least three different BSA member IDs. Those are the ones I know. Who knows how many I really have.
It is very strange. One ID shows that I completed Scoutmastership Fundamentals on 10/22/2000, even though the correct date is 7/6/2001. The October 2000 date was the completion of the indoor sessions only. The other ID shows that I completed New Leader Essentials on 11/20/2001. While I did staff the course that day, the first time I completed it was 10/6/2001 (also as a presenter), which was the first time my district offered what was then a newly rolled out course.
The posting of portions of my training record to the two different IDs continued for years. Safe Swim Defense appears on the second ID in August 2008, and Weather Hazards training appears on the first ID in January 2009. The first ID shows I completed Wood Badge on 11/15/2003, but the date on my certificate is 10/27/2003. The first ID also shows an entry for Wood Badge on 10/20/2002, which was the second weekend of the practical phase. The second ID has an entry for Wood Badge on 9/9/2002, which was the first weekend of the practical phase.
After moving overseas and not being registered for a few years, I created an account late last year to complete YPT, so I could register again. I was assigned another new member ID number.
I went through many of my cards and certificates, and many don’t appear under either of my old IDs. The range is far and wide: Pack Committee Member Leader Specific Training on 11/17/2001, Trainer Development Conference on 3/6/2005, Boy Scout Roundtable Commissioner Training on 5/26/2005, and Trainer’s EDGE on 3/14/2009, to name just a few. This leads me to wonder whether I have a third old member number somewhere out there.
I have a spreadsheet with all the training I can find from one source or another with notations of what ID number it was recorded under or that it does not appear to have been recorded anywhere. Is there a way to fix this?
Peter
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Doug,
That was my problem. I used SSO from Scoutbook to get there.
Thanks.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Something you can do is use the Legacy Web Tools → Manage Member ID and link your other BSA ID #s there. Be sure you make your current BSA ID # “primary”.
Another option: someone else in your unit who has access to the Training Manager at my.scouting.org can add some of your training (you cannot add your own training). You would just need to show them your certificates. Unit Key 3 (Cubmaster, Pack Committee Chair, Chartered Org. Rep.) have access to the Training Manager. Unit Key 3 can also use the Organization Security Manager to add up to three Key 3 Delegates and a Unit Training Chair, who would also have access to the Training Manager.
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I just recently moved to my third council, so I now have 3 BSA ID numbers. I have them all linked under Legacy Web Tools-> Manage Member ID. When I toggle back and forth between which one is primary, I get different training logs. My first number has most of my trainings, the second one has nothing, and the third just has YPT. Is there a way for all my trainings to show for each ID number? What does linking the numbers do if it doesn’t transfer the information?
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Jennifer,
I tried the Manage Member ID tool with both old BSA member IDs. Each time, I got the same message: “The selected council does not match the member ID. Please verify the Council Name and Member ID.” So, I suppose the tool doesn’t work. I was with the same council the entire time those two IDs were in use. When they are entered into the Training Validation tool, my name comes up. The training listed on them almost matches things for whoch I have cards. The dates are different in some instances. So, I know they are both my IDs.
While those IDs were being used, I was registered in Manhattan Council #643, part of Greater New York Councils #640. Manhattan Council is not a choice on the drop-down list, and selecting GNYC produces the error.
I’ll see if I can get someone to add the training to my current ID, so it is all in one place.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
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You need to leave the member ID as primary for at least 24 hours for your training to sync with it.
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So are there any plans to update this inane process of locating leader training. I shouldnt have to download and “PRINT” a PDF file to review missing training. Honestly why did national purchase scoutbook if they were just going to destroy its usefulness. Even though I started this thread I have to come back again to figure out how to get to the useful report under the search option or some such silly thing. It should be on the “Trained Leader Report”, But when you read that all it has is lots of numbers that dont mean anything useful and sometime cant even be found in the training tool. Trained leaders show with lots of incomplete classes and other show as YPT incomplete while other areas confirm they are good with the YPT. Since you are not going to use the previously extremely useful scoutbook training sync can you at least make the my.scouting “Tools” somewhat user friendly?
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That could mean they completed the training under different requirements
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Robert, the training report shows how you can take current training to be trained. If you took the current training, then it shows it as done. However, the training tracks to be trained have not always been the current ones. For example, the Cub Scout modules were redone. The new ones were posted 2019-01 and the old ones retired at the same time. The old ones lasted from 2015-18. The display does not include them, because you can no longer take any of them.
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I think what people are really missing is the nicer GUI interface that Scoutbook had on the training reports. I understand BSA had to do work on the backend to keep the user friendly format on Scoutbook accurate. However, BSA needs to serve the customer (volunteers) that do not have time to download, filter and search to get what they need. The new reports are ok for people who love that excel type report, which is not going to be the majority of people. I use to work for a huge company and designed user friendly reports for OSHA compliance. By providing a single point click web based interface it allowed leaders to better understand their numbers in a simpler format. This in turn increaaed our training compliance numbers across multiple lines of business and properties. It made it manageable for each location. I personally can deal with both environments but know I have to do more work as a volunteer and with multiple units and district roles it means a lot more than a simple click. Please reconsider going back to the version that worked for your customers and not the few paid employees that use legacy everyday.
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I have given up on “them” going back. Ok, that means we live without having as tight of integration, ok. Now that we have that agreed to, STRIP OUT ALL INTERFACE AND INDICATION THAT IT STILL IS IN SCOUTBOOK.
Ok. I had to get that off my chest. If this is where we are, embrace it and have the interface reflect it.
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www.my.scouting.org should have all the leaders and youth trainings (if they attended NYLT or NAYLE etc.) listed
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